Moving to Australia

topic posted Wed, April 23, 2008 - 11:25 AM by  Angie
Hey Everyone. I'm leaving The States thank the heavens and planning to move to Australia. I have a few questions for you guys and would like some input. I'll give you a quick synopsis. No I am not proud to be an American quite frankly I'm sick of it!!!!!

I met an Australian a few years ago and we fell in love and decided to marry. Awwwwww isn't that sweet? hehehe Well it was no hard decision deciding to live there versus here although I do have a house and a job here. I grew up in New York City and mostly we didn't refer to ourselves as Americans so much as New Yorkers. I grew up around so many different cultures and my own family was multi cultural but than...dum dum dum I moved to the greater deep south of The USA. God what culture shock! My assessment has been that the southern baptists rule supreme here and there isn't much room for anyone else as far as they are concerned. There is a famous saying here "yankee go home" hehehehe and believe me I think many of us New Yorkers would if not for the weather and the cheap housing. I say it light heartedly as two of my best friends are big ole rednecks but for the most part people here are scarey quite frankly. For example my divorce attorney has gun magazines and the ten commandments hanging in his law office and told me I shouldn't let the courts know that I'm a Buddhist because it might be considered a cult however the courts wouldn't care that my ex-husband gives the kids guns and lets them go shooting. Oh boy something is wrong with this picture!!!! Not just that but I've been held at gun point twice, I've had every place I lived in broken into not just in New York but here as well. Infact Atlanta has a worse murder rate than New York and most of it is gun related. The school my children were zoned to go to had a shooting and its just ridiculous I'm tired of it and the mentality here. Knock Knock let me in pleaseeee. hehehehe

Anyway my question is first I was looking at the housing costs there but they seem very expensive. What say you? Also the line of work I do here is completely different there. The system there for land titles is far different than here. It is a much better system there as you don't have search land titles for 50 years and its not nearly as complex as they make it here but the downfall for me is that thats all I have done for 14 years. So do you think it would hard for me to get my foot in the door in another sector of real estate as an American or do you think it makes no difference? I know it sounds petty but I have a New York accent and my experience here in the south is that they don't really like it and one firm I worked for didn't even want me to answer phones because of it. Will it make a sh** of difference you think?

In closing I imagine I'll run into good and obnoxious people everywhere in the world but hell I would much rather someone take a piss at my expense than have to worry about having a gun to my head or not being able to buy beer on sunday or see a thousand American flags hanging on the drive to work or having to pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america....rut row I'm a poor patriot and as I've been told many times by fellow Americans "if you don't like get the hell out."
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Angie
Atlanta
  • Re: Moving to Australia

    Wed, April 23, 2008 - 9:21 PM
    Hi Angie - it's a big move! Good luck with it....

    <Anyway my question is first I was looking at the housing costs there but they seem very expensive. What say you?>
    Housing is very expensive here, especially on the East Coast, but even Perth is starting to climb in price recently. Where have you decided to settle? Obviously, Sydney has the highest cost of living with Melbourne coming a close second. Brisbane is a bit cheaper - but that's cause it's brisbane....lol!

    In regards to your career, I think that you caould definitely transfer your skills to our market. I'm in recruitment and am sure that there are agencies out there that could help you. I would suggest looking some up and sending them your resume in preparation for your move. Give them a clear date as to your arrival in the country or you may be over looked as international candidates can be very hard to handle remotely.

    Now - the accent. I can only give you my opinion and the result of my 30 years of observation within this country. One thing that will turn most Aussies off in regards to Americans is that they have a bit of a bad rap for being 'loud & obnoxious'. We value honest, easy-going, straight-shooters over flashy, glamorous, "look at me, i'm so great" self-promotors. That sounds pretty bad doesn't it? We don't see all american's like that but if I were to pigeon-hole the differences between cultures, that would about explain it. Your accent will be fine I think as long as it's not intrusively loud.....you will get some looks though 'cause it is so very thick and different to anything we hear here (that's not on TV).

    In closing - if you're worried about guns, steer clear on South Australia!! They're seriously odd in Adelaide......bodies in barrels odd.

    No beer on Sundays?? That's just WRONG! Can't they tell you where, when & in whom you can put your genitalia also? That'd suck.
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      Thu, April 24, 2008 - 7:47 PM
      Hey Gabs thanks a bunch!

      Well I'm glad it isn't just my imagination it really is expensive. I've been looking around Sydney and the outlying suburbs and the prices are very similiar to New York. I am guessing it might be better to rent for a time...maybe the rest of my life. hehehehe

      Thank you for the encouragement job wise. I've been looking at jobs over there trying to get an idea and there really is alot of opportunity and what I like about it is that there are alot of jobs that seem to be willing to train in areas if they feel they have the right person with some skills in that field as over here everyone just wants a degree or expereince and it seems alot harder to get your foot in the door in my perspective.

      As for the accent comments what you say Gabs doesn't sound bad at all it is the truth mate. Well I can't generalize all Americans but for the most part in my own perception I would say on the whole I think the problem is the ideals Americans are raised with. You see it in the schools and the culture. Too much patriotism and pride and ego and status. It always seems like it is about self and impressing other people. Honestly I wasn't raised like that and I hate that mentality. Although growing up in my family I will admit they had volume control problems with their voices hehehe I swear though I don't have that genetic trait I was actually born with volume control. hehehe I cannot stand the high horse syndrome and unfortunately it does seem like alot of Americans have it but i believe for every person who likes to ride the high horse there is another to knock them off and it makes for good entertainment too. hehehe

      Oh the guns. Well at least they are illegal over there for the most part. Here a two year old kid can pick up a shot gun or a rifle and it isn't against the law now that is scary!

      They call them the "blue laws" mate. No alkyhol on sunday lest you go straight downward which is where I'm probably headed I just hope they have Texas Hold Em is all I'm saying.
      • Re: Moving to Australia

        Sat, April 26, 2008 - 3:07 AM
        Gabsta wrote:
        "Obviously, Sydney has the highest cost of living with Melbourne coming a close second. Brisbane is a bit cheaper - but that's cause it's brisbane....lol!"

        Pardon me for asking a stupid question. Is there something about Brisbane that makes it a less attractive place to live than Sidney? It's supposed to be relatively easy to get out into natural settings from either city. Brisbane's climate is supposed to be a little more subtropical. Queenslanders are supposed to bit more conservative than people from other parts of Australia. Is it the architectural differences between the two cities?
        • Re: Moving to Australia

          Sun, April 27, 2008 - 8:20 PM
          No worries Angie - I'm glad I didn't offend.

          Larry - I'm a born & bred (south-west) Sydney-sider so some may say my opinions of Brisbane/QLD are a bit skewed :P

          In my observation and opinion, QLD has taken a bit of time catching up with the rest of the Eastern states. It's only been the last 10-15 years that it has turned from anything other than a holiday location. Old people retired there, it was largely anglo (as evidenced by very few naturalised asians - although there's HEAPs on the tourist buses), and an economy that revolved around mining, sugar cane, banana's & tourism. As a consequence, those that live/grew up there are 'a little bit different' - ie, they finish work at 4pm, drink XXXX (blah!) daily and a lot still have an unrefined 'ocker' accent. I guess, you could say they're a bit un-worldly comparatively, but I've heard all of us Aussies are!

          I don't know if they're more conservative - they're a lot older! Bit like Florida - because it's warmer the old people love it!

          And don't even get me started with the architecture! It makes me laugh, especially on the Gold Coast & Surfers Paradise - they're Tacky with a capital T!!!! It's all pretty bogan actually, lol.

          More recently there has been a lot
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            Sun, April 27, 2008 - 8:24 PM
            More recently there has been a lot of development and it is starting to develop a bit more of a cosmopolitan environment but it's not convincing if you ask me. I was up there shopping and found that they aren't really up to date, couldn't find books, music etc that I could find in other states, etc.

            Gotta love the banana-benders (QLD'ers) though :D
            • Re: Moving to Australia

              Sun, April 27, 2008 - 9:28 PM
              Thanks.
              • Re: Moving to Australia

                Tue, April 29, 2008 - 10:27 PM
                hi, ive been here a short while. moved from the UK.. ive had no problems settling in melbourne, its a great city although very expensive to buy a house here, so maybe best to wait and see if the market gos into reversal like, USA, UK and NZ. It could do with some adjustment, although it may not fall far. Ive had no comments about being English and my accent - no pommy bashing at all. Melbourne seems a very accepting place. Its a good place to start again too. my back ground is Internet related, but ive decided im going to avoid the office for a bit and am doing loads of different bits and pieces at the moment that ive wanted to do for a long time. im only working a few days a week and surviving quite nicely as ive realised that for now, i just dont need that much money to be getting on.

                ive also checked out victoria and its quite spectacular and easy to get away from it all. Great camping and outdoors stuff.

                cheers,
                d
                • Re: Moving to Australia

                  Tue, April 29, 2008 - 11:30 PM
                  Thrillseeker wrote:
                  "ive also checked out victoria and its quite spectacular and easy to get away from it all. Great camping and outdoors stuff."

                  Speaking of oudoors, I've stumbled across a website about bushwalking in Victoria. Bob Padula has listed photos from more than 600 of his hikes. Here's the link.
                  worldisround.com/home/bobpadula/

                  However I'm in no position to evaluate the info, since I've never been to Australia. I live in Northern California, and do most of my hiking in the Tahoe Sierra.

                  Happy trails,
                  Larry
          • Re: Moving to Australia

            Tue, April 29, 2008 - 11:36 PM
            Larry,

            I thought Brisbane to be fairly metropolitan...for Australia. Melbourne and Sydney are by far the most urban areas of Australia. Brisbane is still worth a visit on a drive by but am not really sure what one would stick around there for unless one had a job there. I suppose Brisbane has some sort of nightlife...I don't really remember much about it really...although I do remember hanging out there...just not very clearly. Melbourne and Sydney have a lot more to offer vis-a-vis culturally interesting venues. Still, they did have a Thai temple in the river park there that was very beautiful.